Did the fake figurine represent Leda without the duck. Any opinion
from the archeologists ?.
Other possibilities ?
You wrote :" Maybe this forum's "to avoid" list should have a
section for those sellers who only sell fakes."
Even nasty draconarius_1 sells the ocasional authentic.
The only way to get rid of this thief,and others,is to avoid
buying from them. Renate and I do not buy from crooks.Others do.
Even members of this group,including confessions by dealers.
Personally I am not going to favour anyone reducing the risk
of buying fakes by establishing distinctions between absolute
thiefs or petty crooks. All of them sell fakes.You can not be
half pregnant.Might sound a bit harsh,but that's my ethic.
Ramon Saenz de Heredia
Are you going to leave negative feedback.?
--- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com, "dianelos" <dianelos@...>
wrote:
>
> OK, here's the rest of the story. I live in a provincial town and
> showed the item to director of the local museum. She was vague and
> asked to keep the item for her specialist to have a look at. When I
> later met him he told me it looked fake but that I should take it to
> Athens where they have a central office that keeps tabs on all
private
> collections and antiquities shops in Greece. By law all Greek
> antiquities (defined as any item pre 1453 CE that came from modern
> Greece proper) must be declared. Ownership is recognized only if one
> can prove that the item was not obtained illegally and that it has
> left Greece before the past 80 years; otherwise the item is
consigned
> to you but is considered property of the state.
>
> So I visited this office (they are a stone throw away from the
> Acropolis). The archeologists who work there see stuff every day and
> are very knowledgeable. When I showed the piece to the archeologist
> who attended me she smiled broadly and said that it was such a nice
> piece but obviously a fake.
>
> I have shipped the item to the Italian gentleman who wanted to buy
the
> statuette even after I told him that it was a fake. I had asked him
> whether he was a specialist or dealer in antiquities and he told me
> that no and that he was just interested in collecting things he
found
> beautiful, a sentiment I can well relate to. He actually paid me
more
> than I had paid for the thing. I just got an email from him where he
> informs me that he received the statuette and that he agrees that it
> is fake as is an Apollo he had directly bought from the same seller,
> draconarius_1. Maybe this forum's "to avoid" list should have a
> section for those sellers who only sell fakes.
>
> --- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com, "Ramon Jr" <rsdeheredia@>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Dianelos
> > What did the archeologist say ?
> > Ramon Saenz de Heredia
> > Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com, "dianelos" <dianelos@> wrote:
> > Hello everybody, and thanks for the feedback. The situation
certainly
> > > doesn't look very good. Tomorrow I am meeting an archaeologist
who
> > > directs a museum here in Greece and it will be interesting to
listen
> > > to what she will have to say.
> > >
> > > As for the guy who offered to buy this item at over twice the
price
> > I
> > > paid, he was quite insistent but once I told him that the
seller
> > had a
> > > dubious reputation he did not contact me anymore.
> > >
> > > Dianelos
> > >
> > > --- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com, "dianelos" <dianelos@>
> > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi everybody; this is my first post here.
> > > >
> > > > A few weeks ago I bought on ebay a "Greco Roman bronze Leda
> > statuette
> > > > figurine" (item 330205928363) from Draconarius_1. That was
before
> > > > finding out that this seller is on the "to avoid" list of
this
> > group.
> > > > Now the seller offers a 30 day money back guarantee. What
> > complicates
> > > > the situation is that I received a message from somebody
offering
> > to
> > > > buy this statue at double the price I paid.
> > > >
> > > > I bought this on a whim and I am not really a collector or
> > > > particularly knowledgeable in this area. The statuette does
look
> > real
> > > > enough to me though. I have posted some higher resolution
photos
> > in
> > > > the photo section of this group, but I am not sure if they
are
> > public
> > > > (anyway try this link:
> > > >
> > >
> >
http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Ancientartifacts/photos/browse/6a0e?
> > c= )
> > > >
> > > > Any ideas? Any help would be welcome.
> > > >
> > > > Dianelos
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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