Of course i would have not brought this up without certainty. For
reference J.J. Fiechter, Faux et faussaires en art Egyptien, 2005,
where Blanchard is mentioned as having sold fake statues and reliefs.
I do not have the book yet myself but it sounds interesting enought
to acquire myself!
Cheers,
Niek
--- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com, "tuppennyblue" <tim@...>
wrote:
>
> Hi Niek
>
> We have often seen dealers condemned for selling fakes without
reasons being given as to why the alleged fakes are not authentic,
but I think this is the first time anyone has been condemned without
any actual alleged fakes being produced, and I doubt Mr. Blanchard is
available to defend himself! Can you ask Dr. Raven for further
information / photos of examples?
>
> Here's a Blanchard's item recently sold by our 'friend' Eftis:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130202320428
>
> I am starting to collect photos of items from the old Cairo
dealerships and associated paperwork; if members are able to help it
would be appreciated. I will certainly let the group know if I come
across any fakes!
>
> Tim
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Niek De Haan
> To: ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:50 PM
> Subject: RE: [Ancientartifacts] Re: Collection of Ushabtis
>
>
> Hi Tim,
>
> They were selling with official license from cairo museum and
also from their finds for decades, this must be many thousands of
pieces. Blanchard certificate remains a good provenance but does not
provide any guarantee for its authenticity imho in view of the
comments of dr. raven.
>
> Cheers,
> Niek
>
>
www.shabticollections.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> To: Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com
> From: tim@...
> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:02:57 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Ancientartifacts] Re: Collection of Ushabtis
>
>
> Hi Niek
>
> I was just curious, I have seen a few items from Blanchard's
and all have seemed okay. I have a shabti on a wooden block with a
Blanchard's label on the base and a silver necklace with three
scarabs and a Blanchard's COA/receipt and I'm happy enough with those.
>
> Tim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Niek De Haan
> To: ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:06 AM
> Subject: RE: [Ancientartifacts] Re: Collection of Ushabtis
>
>
> Hi,
>
> No, no specific examples, just from various sources,
including Dr. Raven of Leiden museum, i understood that it widely
known that they did sell fakes, whether this even were shabtis i am
not sure although this seems likely. Nevertheless i guess we would
immediately spot their fake shabtis if any.
>
> Cheers,
> Niek
>
>
www.shabticollections.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> To: Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com
> From: tim@...
> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 23:24:29 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Ancientartifacts] Re: Collection of Ushabtis
>
>
> Do you know of specific examples of fakes sold by
Blanchard's, Niek?
>
> The earliest known fake shabti was bequeathed by Archbishop
Laud to the Bodleian Library at Oxford University in 1635 and now
resides in the Ashmolean Museum:
>
>
http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Ancientartifacts/photos/view/1789?
b=1&m=f&o=0
>
>
http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Ancientartifacts/photos/view/1789?
b=2&m=f&o=0
>
> Tim
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Niek De Haan
> To: ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 8:59 PM
> Subject: RE: [Ancientartifacts] Re: Collection of Ushabtis
>
>
> Hi Matthias,
>
> Tourist fakes have been in Egypt since the 1920's. Even
the famous Blanchards has been selling fakes in the 1920 even though
he was an authorised dealer for the cairo museum.
>
> I stick with my previous view. i recommend that you show
the shabtis to a local museum for confirmation and then a possible
refund for the likely fake pieces.
>
> Cheers,
> Niek
>
>
www.shabticollections.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> To: Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com
> From: ankauf@...
> Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 08:34:20 +0000
> Subject: [Ancientartifacts] Re: Collection of Ushabtis
>
>
> Hi,
>
> first of all, thanks for the answers. Finally, I come
up with some
> more information on the figures and hope to hear your
opinion again.
>
> All Figures have originally been acquired in the
1970ies. I can be
> absolutely sure about this. The person I have the
pieces from has been
> collecting artefacts for some decades. So the pieces
won't be bought
> directly at a tourist market in Egypt.
>
> 1. Figurine
> don't know where bought.
> Described as dancer and "Concubine du mort"
>
> 2. Figurine
> don't know where bought.
> Described as "Concubine du mort"
> Dated 745-332 BC
>
> 3. Figurine
> bought from auctionhouse Ruef in munich in the 70ies.
> Described as "Uachib - Re"
>
> 4. Figurine
> bought from auctionhouse Ruef in munich in the 70ies.
> Dated ca. 700 v.Chr.
>
> 5. Figurine
> don't know where bought and have no further
description.
>
> regards
> Matthias
>
> --- In ncentartifacts@..., "Dik van Bommel"
> <dikencis@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi Matthias,
> >
> > I have big doubts too, don't know enough about the
female figures so
> that they are wrong is only a feeling on basis of shape
and faience.
> >
> > The first LP ushabti Wa-ibra-sa-Neith looks fine, but
I wonder were
> I have seen this before.
> >
> > The TIP is fake, wrong faience, shape, glyph's, etc.
> >
> > The last LP is impressive but has all the
characteristics of the new
> fakes with the burned structure. These are old Sadigh
fakes reworked.
> The glyph's between the hand are not very common and I
can't give
> thumbs up.
> >
> > Sorry for the bad news.
> >
> > Can you tell us were you bought these artefact's?
> >
> > Carpe diem,
> > Dik
> >
> >
> > ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
> > Van: Niek De Haan
> > Aan: ancinartifacts@...
> > Ontvangen: maandag 3 maart 2008 22:16
> > Onderwerp: RE: [Ancientartifacts] Collection of
Ushabtis
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have problems with the authenticity of more than
one i am afraid,
> the first to "female figurines" do not look like
anything i have seen
> published before and appear tourist fakes to me.
> >
> > Third one looks genuine, Late Period (Beard, back
pillar, incised
> glyphs et cetera), for Wa-ib-ra (mery sa?)
> >
> > Fourth, fake too, supposedly Tip period but shape is
wrong, faience
> too and the glyphs.
> >
> > Fifth piece i am not sure of, Late Period style,
glyphs okay, shape
> okay, faience okay for as far as cs be seen on the
photos, benefit of
> the doubt. Dik what is your view?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Niek
> >
> > www.shabticollections.com
> >
> >
> > To: Ancientartifactyahoogroups.cm
> > From: ankauf@
> > Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 06:18:31 +0000
> > Subject: [Ancientartifacts] Collection of Ushabtis
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi group,
> >
> > I would like to present 3 Ushabtis and 2 female
figurines to you and
> > hope to receive some help in assigning an Egyptian
period to them.
> >
> > Find them here:
> > http://www.thegreatcollection.de/ushabtis/
> >
> > Can someone help and point out characteristic
features of the
> > pieces that help to place them in a timeline and
maybe tell something
> > about their use?
> > The painted Ushabti for example. Might it be a priest
or a guardian?
> >
> > Has anyone an idea about the female figurines?
> > They could be goddesses or concubines. I can't find a
hint to what
> > they were used for. The fact that they are not
depicted very> arms? Have "normal people" been portrayed like that
when long armed
> > statues were a fashion in Egypt?
> >
> > Also, I am not sure about authenticity of one of the
figurines. Maybe
> > someone of you has got the same feeling :-)
> >
> > I appreciate any help I will get and hope to stir up
some discussion :-)
> > Matthias
> >
> >
> >
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