Re: [Ancientartifacts] Re: Trocadero?: addendum

Hi Albert,

and I forgot Axel, of artixibalba.   Though I don't collect pre-Columbian, which is his specialty, he would be the first guy I would go to, based on his knowledgeable and helpful postings.

sincerely,

wesley

niuboy08 <niuboy08@yahoo.com> wrote:

Thanks everyone for your help, I assumed that Trocadero was a more
trustworthy site then ebay, but when I saw that item there I became
concerned and curious what other's thaught of the site.

Thanks again for your responses,
Albert

--- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com, "Arte Xibalba"
<artexibalba@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Albert,
>
> Trocadero is somewhat self-policing in that there is an internal
mechanism
> for filing complaints about any item listed. Some years ago, when
Trocadero
> was smaller, this seemed to have been used more extensively. To be
certain,
> several dealers of fakes have been kicked off the site following
numerous
> complaints, but do not consider it a carefully vetted venue. It is
a far
> safer and much more ethical environment than Fleabay, but there are
some
> questionable objects that show up from time to time.
www.artigua.com is
> only for antiquities dealers, it's a little more carefully vetted
and more
> selective about which dealers are permitted to join, but do not
expect
> perfection anywhere.
>
>
>
> It is always difficult for one dealer to complain about the
> misrepresentations of another dealer on the same venue, as a
conflict of
> interest is easily construed. In general, there is some quiet
behind the
> scenes communication that usually gets obviously bad items removed,
but
> there are certain people who resist friendly suggestions, usually
those with
> minimal knowledge of the material they sell. I don't know anyone
who has
> the time to regularly patrol the listings to search for errors,
> misrepresentations or fakes..and then to challenge them. I may be
asked to
> comment on particular items by clients from time to time, but have
not
> scrolled through the thousands of items listed in years. Your best
defence
> is educating yourself and seeking the opinions of more experienced
eyes,
> which is one of the things available to you here.
>
>
>
> There are always dealers trolling Fleabay for bargains, so you will
see
> constant comments on stuff listed there and the scam artists freely
> operating there, but far fewer dealers look at Trocadero listings,
as most
> sellers there are more experienced and far less likely to give
stuff away.
> Management does pay attention to the comments of members,
especially those
> folks who have been around and in business for some time. Repeat
complaints
> about particular items sellers do draw action. Unlike with
Fleabay, there
> is no support for flagrant sellers of fakes. However, there are no
in-house
> experts to review each listing for accuracy, the place is simply
too large
> to expect that.
>
>
>
> Overall, Trocadero is a much safer place for collectors than Ebay,
any day
> of the week.
>
>
>
> Axel
>
> www.artexibalba.com
>
>
>
>
>
> From: Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of niuboy08
> Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 2:48 PM
> To: Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Ancientartifacts] Trocadero?
>
>
>
> I'm newer to collecting, and I recently discovered Trocadero. I
> thaught that it would be a more reliable site online in finding
> authentic pieces than that of ebay. And, I noticed one item which
has
> been classified as fake from collector-antiquities.com and I was
> wondering if Trocadero polices itself, or if its more or less like
ebay?
>
> Here is the link to the item: http://tinyurl.com/2fgdlc
>
> and to the collector-antiquites page with the same item (I think
even
> same picture): http://www.collector-antiquities.com/353/
> http://tinyurl.com/28l9at
>
> Thanks,
> Albert
>

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