[Ancientartifacts] Adopting newbies. Was :Re: Opinions please

MAYBE THE LIST IS OUT GROWING THE PROBLEM... HOW IS IT THAT THE
PROBLEM WILL BE ADDRESSED? DAILY GRIPE SESSIONS AREN'T GOING TO FIX
IT, OBVIOUSLY. LOOK AT THE RECORD BETWEEN GRIPE AND COMPLAIN, VS.
RESULT (QUANTIFIABLE AND DOCUMENTED!!!)

IF PEOPLE REALLY GIVE A DAMN SO MUCH, IT'S TIME TO START DOUMENTING
PIECES;;;

--- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com, "tarquin" <scarus@...> wrote:
>
> Maybe the lists should include a caveat to this effect.
>
> Tarquin
>
>
> --- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com, "rolf5568"
<heliosgallery@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Tim and Ramon,
> >
> > Perhaps fleabay offering number 360044350306 illustrates my point?
> >
> > I'm sure the vendor is entirely innocent and perhaps not great
at
> > identifying antiquities but the open reference to a blacklist
> > strongly implies to an unexperienced buyer that all his items
must
> > therefore be considered genuine...
> >
> > Tim's point is logical but how many buyers on ebay apply common
sense
> > before making a purchase? I'm not saying they don't have common
> > sense, just that many buyers temporarily suspend it because they
so
> > desperately want to believe a vendor's description. Its funny you
> > should mention the ALR: actually, I think that their checks have
much
> > the same effect: yes, they occasionally do a bit of good by
finding
> > something which has been stolen (normally considered to be the
job of
> > the police) and it shows good intentions if a dealer runs their
stock
> > thru their database... but it gives no warranty of legal title or
> > authenticity. The ALR are not misleading anyone, but its easy for
an
> > unscrupulous individual to use their services in order to do so.
For
> > example, the database can not identify items which have been
> > excavated illegally. If (!) I was to buy a wonderful Sumerian
figure
> > fresh from a bomb crater in Basra the first thing I'd do is run
it
> > through the ALR - it would be my get-out-of-jail-free card and my
> > pitiful excuse at "due dilligance" if it was ever questioned -
pay a
> > small fee and probably avoid jail....
> >
> > Like the ALR, a "bad dealer list" or "fake antiquities list" is
good
> > in principle but aspects leave it wide open to abuse (in my
opinion),
> > and should therefore be addressed before a buyer thinks its their
> > best way of double-checking a purchase.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Rolf
> >
>

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