[Ancientartifacts] Re: Is this authentic?

Gary,

I did not mean to insinuate, I meant to state it loud and clear. You
obviously know nothing about the subject of eBay, thus you are
ignorant, at least on that subject.

On a thousand dollar sale, the seller would incur roughly $41 in
fees, more if he used special features or more than one photo. Of
course, people like you think that the auction listings just pop up
already finished and ready to go, so I won't even get into wasted
time and effort. To relist it, you get to pay it all again, so it is
$82 stolen. Of course, you can wait weeks and file all the reports
and eventually get your money back (sometimes) but that is yet more
wasted time doing what you should never have had to do in the first
place.
So is it fair to ask a seller to take that loss because you were too
lazy to take the time (with at least 5 days to do it)of learning what
you should know before you bid. There is no excuse for not honoring a
bid as there is plenty of time to do research or even cancel a bid.

But I know I live in a whining world that has long forgotten about
personal responsibility.
SGM

--- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com, "gjkmt1946" <gjkmt1946@...>
wrote:
>
> Steve,
> you insinuate that I'm ingnorant? I'm not the one who flew off
the
> handle because my feelings were hurt. The "big boy" thing to do
would
> be to resolve the dispute. You know what I meant about loss, you
> still have the item to resell, the fees aren't going to bankrupt
you.
> (I dearly hope not, anyway). Would you be so ethical about
following
> through with a purchase if you found you were beng duped by a
thief?
> That doesn' make much sense to me. Joe was not "displeased" with
what
> he thought was an authentic item, he simply wanted to know if it
WAS
> authentic. Big difference there.
> Sorry about the colloquialism, we are such savages over here in
> the colonies. I gotta tell ya, the second grade was the toughest
> three years of my life!!!! :)
> Cheers P&L
> Gary Jensen
>
>
>
>
> -- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Minor"
> <relicdigar@> wrote:
> >
> > yes,
> > when I buy something I am not satisfied with, I do the big boy
> thing
> > and eat my loss. I take the chance and I accept the loss. If the
> > seller accepts returns, I will but only with the stipulation that
> my
> > apology is accepted for his lost time and I repay the costs he
> > incurred with the listing.
> >
> > Auctions run for a minimum of 5 days and that is ample time to
ask
> > questions and posts images on sites like this.
> > If you are too lazy to do that, you should take the loss or use
the
> > right of return if one is offered.
> >
> > Doesn't cost the seller anything? Are you really that ignorant?
> > Incredible. Do you think eBay is free? Have you ever heard of
> listing
> > fees and final values fees. Probably not, the self righteous and
> self
> > centered usually are unaware of others.
> > And a relisted item will seldom fetch as high a price as it did
the
> > first time.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com, Gary Jensen <gjkmt1946@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > So........anytime YOU find you have made a mistake , just go
> ahead
> > and follow it through and take it in the shorts? Even if it
means
> > YOU are getting "stiffed". Articles are usually paid for before
> > shipping, so there is no way a seller is going to get "stiffed",
it
> > is simply a "lost sale". Big deal~ If you are the seller of the
> item
> > this fellow is speaking of perhaps you should just lighten up and
> > make the sale, since he is asking the right people to find his
> > answer. There are hundreds of "ethical" bidders getting stiffed
on
> > ebay every day. That's the reason this group exists?
> > > Gary Jensen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Steve Minor <relicdigar@>
> > > To: Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 6:01:21 PM
> > > Subject: [Ancientartifacts] Re: Is this authentic?
> > >
> > > Joe,
> > >
> > > Please never bid on anything I put up for auction. (nevermind,
> you
> > are
> > > now blocked). Have you ever considered gaining your education
> > before
> > > you place your bids? Have you ever considered being an ethical
> > bidder?
> > > To "stiff" a seller is theft, pure and simple. You had plenty
of
> > time
> > > to post your questions or contact the seller. You have entered
> into
> > a
> > > contract and you should follow it. Grow up.
> > >
> > > Steve Minor
> > >
> > > --- In Ancientartifacts@ yahoogroups. com, "joeb3720"
> <joebartz@ .>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I just made a 'leap of faith' on this artifact:
> > > >
> > > > http://tinyurl. com/5nl4ah
> > > >
> > > > Before I pay for it, is this handaxe authentic? If not, I
will
> > stiff
> > > > they seller.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the help,
> > > > Joe
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
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