__._,_.___----- Original Message -----From: rolf5568Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 9:12 AMSubject: [Ancientartifacts] Re: Opinions pleaseHi Ramon,
If you buy an item from an ADA member which is later considered
questionable and the dealer is not able to resolve the problem or
disputes your assessment, you have the benefit of being able to ask
the ADA to make an independent arbitration on the matter. This means
that the item will be assessed by the ADA's governing committee
(which includes several of the world's leading dealers) and they will
provide an opinion based on their combined knowledge or from further
investigation if required. If the seller's description was found to
be inaccurate, then that dealer would be asked to conclude the matter
in a way that would ensure the satisfaction of the buyer and the
reputation of the association.
See: http://www.theada.co.uk/code. htm
Tim mentioned some questionable shabtis sold by London Galleries
(capitalised) - there is no ADA member trading as London Galleries
listed on the ADA website. If you meant galleries in the general
sense, then sorry for being pedantic ;-)
If a dealer claims to be an ADA member but is not listed on
www.theada.co.uk I would strongly recommend avoiding them completely.
If they are prepared to lie about association memberships they're
probably also prepared to lie about their stock. I would also advise
any potential buyer to apply caution on any website which claims
to "abide by the code of conduct" of the ADA: this is a nonsensical
statement unless you are bound by it (i.e. a member) and means
absolutely nothing. This is sometimes stated in good intention by non-
members but it can also be used to mislead buyers and imply some sort
of safety net on purchases.
If you find a dealer/ebay listing/website claiming to be a member of
the ADA and can not find them on the ADA website please report the
details to the ADA secretary (details on www.theada.co.uk) or myself
at www.heliosgallery.com
Cheers,
Rolf
PS My answer to Ramon's question is my own understanding of the ADA
rules based on my long-standing membership, but please ask the
association directly if you would like an exact clarification.
--- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups. , "Ramon Jr" <rsdeheredia@com ...>
wrote:
>
> How does the Antique Dealers Association act when this type
> of situation occurs.
> Ramon Saenz de Heredia
> --- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups. , "tuppennyblue" <tim@>com
> wrote:
> >
> > ...and again to add that some of these fakes are VERY DANGEROUS,
> being unwittingly sold by ADA member London Galleries and bought by
> highly experienced collectors. I strongly recommend studying the
> pictures and learning the types.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Dik van Bommel
> > To: ancientartifacts@yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 7:44 AM
> > Subject: RE: [Ancientartifacts] Opinions please
> >
> >
> >
> > ushabtis are fake, see Bron's site for more info about PadiIset
> http://www.collector-antiquities. com/230/
> > carpe diem,
> > dik
> >
> > ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
> > Van: sam rezoski
> > Aan: Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups. com
> > Ontvangen: dinsdag 22 april 2008 19:39
> > Onderwerp: Re: [Ancientartifacts] Opinions please
> >
> > shabtis look " not uthentic"
> > lamp too but good price as a reproduction
> > I dont know what boat it is ? it looks very strang
> >
> >
> >
> > Ramon Jr <rsdeheredia@> wrote:
> > Pics no good.Sorry.
> > Padi...... shabtis
> > 310042683381
> > 310042683463
> > SYRO HITTITE BOAT
> > 310042683954
> > oil lamp
> > 310031328080
> > The buyer really liked it
> > Beautiful addition to my collection--thanks! magnus_j (
231)
> Apr-19-08
> > 12:01
> > ANCIENT ANTIQUITY ROMAN OIL LAMP WITH SATYR FACE
> (#310031328080) GBP
> > 35.00 View Item
> > Ramon Saenz de Heredia
> >
> >
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