Would you like to comment on my assessment of Artemission's fakes on
ebay now??
We've only sold (and not yet removed) one calf amulet from our
website in the past week, that being the very nice moulded red glass
Ptolemaic example which is clearly visible on our front page. In the
past fortnight we've also sold a New Kingdom faience trussed ox
deposit which was removed from our website this Monday or the
previous one during routine updating procedures. Would you mind
telling me which one you're pretending to refer to?
If required, I'd be delighted to upload a photo to the group files of
the latter, I can also demonstrate due dilligance during the buying
process on both and provide evidence of independent provenance
clarification for either piece should you wish... it all sounds like
a good advertising opportunity to me!
One of these items was also authenticated by a national museum prior
to my purchase so try to pick the right one to insult or you may look
a little bit silly. The other was acquired by a group member reading
these posts who happens to know more about this type of antiquity
than I do. I'm not peddling lies: I'm willing and able to
substantiate openly each and every one of these claims.
Mr. Karawani: if you stop continuously selling fakes and you stop
claiming to abide by the code of conduct of the ADA you will give me
no further reasons to attack you.
Do you disagree in any way at all with my opinions on Artemission's
current ebay listings? Let's hear it.
Rolf Kiaer
www.heliosgallery.com
--- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com, "rimahrimah"
<rimahrimah@...> wrote:
>
> There again, total innocence. How much can you keep up this act.
> It's the calf amulet you filthy-mouthed uneducated hypocrite.
> Amnesia hitting? :))))
> So now you are licking the boots of the antiquities anti-sellers
lobby. To be on the safe
> side, isn't it? What a joke you are Rolph. It's a tragedy and you
can't even see it. A fakes
> seller like will be welcomed by them with open atms.:)))))
>
> Andy
>
> --- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com, "rolf5568"
<heliosgallery@> wrote:
> >
> > Andy,
> >
> > What Egyptian amulet? Everything which is added to our website is
> > also emailed to over 1000 subscribers, so it should be easy
enough to
> > prove your honesty if you were telling the truth. Besides, I
wouldn't
> > know how to remove something from my website if my life depended
on
> > it... much to my partner's annoyance :-), and no, she didn't
> > mysteriously remove some supposedly fake amulet either.
> >
> > Several hundred people on this group probably also visit my
website,
> > so I suspect they will be able to spot your little factual errors
if
> > you would care to elaborate on them. What did this amulet you
were
> > studying look like? What period did I claim it to be? Colour,
price,
> > size, depiction, anything at all? Surely you can remember
something?
> >
> > Was my assessment of Artemission's fakes incorrect in any way?
> >
> > Rolf Kiaer
> > www.heliosgallery.com
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Yes Rolph, you are a seller of fakes hiding under the honesty
> > mantle.
> > > You now want to keep up your act and pretend you forgot the
> > sumerian marble bust, or
> > > the so many amulets and objects you list on your site.
> > > The fact that you just removed one suspecious Egyptian amulet
> > between my two message
> > > you think you can get away with it. I'll find more when I have
the
> > time. Not to worry you
> > > old filthy mouthed fool. Is the language you used in your
earlier
> > messages is what you also
> > > use at home?
> > > Education education eduction is my answer.
> > >
> > > Andy
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com, "rolf5568"
> > <heliosgallery@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Oh, the famous Andy Rimahrimah!
> > > >
> > > > Would you mind being specific, just as I have been about
> > Artemission?
> > > >
> > > > Or I suppose you'll make up some infantile reason why that
would
> > not
> > > > be possible.
> > > >
> > > > Rolf
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com, "rimahrimah"
> > > > <rimahrimah@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Jeff,
> > > > >
> > > > > As we have seen and discussed on this group in the past,
Rolph
> > also
> > > > offered and sold
> > > > > fakes, from sumerian figures to amulets and unfortunately
still
> > is
> > > > under a cover of
> > > > > innocence and honesty. No one has been so aggressive with
him.
> > His
> > > > obsession with
> > > > > Artemission is becoming laughable.
> > > > > Lets watch and be amused, thats all we can do.
> > > > >
> > > > > Andy
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com, "JEFF HALLEN"
> > > > <jeffhallen001@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello Daniel,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have never bought from Artemission nor have I bought
from
> > Rolf
> > > > but I have heard that
> > > > > Artemission has knowingly and willingly sold fakes and not
from
> > > > anyone on this forum. If I
> > > > > were you, I would investigate it further.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jeff
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: rolf5568<mailto:heliosgallery@>
> > > > > > To:
> > > > Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Ancientartifacts@
> > > > om>
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 4:29 AM
> > > > > > Subject: [Ancientartifacts] Re: Artemission: reply to
Daniel
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello Daniel,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > With all due respect, if you are impressed by
Artemission
> > its
> > > > because
> > > > > > you don't know enough about antiquities. I do not know
any
> > > > serious
> > > > > > collector or dealer who would claim that Artemission do
not
> > > > sell
> > > > > > fakes on a regular basis: please prove me wrong if you
can.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Artemission (Tony Karawani) sells forgeries probably
every
> > day
> > > > of his
> > > > > > sordid little life, his business is built on deception
and
> > > > fraud. He
> > > > > > relies on mixing his stock with a majority of genuine
> > objects
> > > > in
> > > > > > order to make the big profits from unsuspecting buyers
who
> > > > think he
> > > > > > is honest and therefore buy items which look genuine
but
> > are
> > > > not. I
> > > > > > believe this paragraph would be both defamatory and
> > libellous
> > > > if it
> > > > > > was untrue, so I wonder why I never get a court summons
for
> > > > speaking
> > > > > > up about this criminal?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > He is more sophisticated in his fraud than Eftis and
Sadigh
> > and
> > > > > > that's why so many inexperienced collectors buy from
him.
> > He's
> > > > a
> > > > > > dangerous little creep who shows no remorse to the
point of
> > > > self-
> > > > > > delusion.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *If you would like me to highlight some of his items
for
> > > > discussion
> > > > > > I'd be very very happy to do so*
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But why don't you ask around and get some more opinions
> > before
> > > > you
> > > > > > flush any more money down the toilet to this sewer rat?
If
> > he
> > > > stuffs
> > > > > > you with fakes, don't claim you've not been warned; if
> > you're
> > > > skilled
> > > > > > enough to buy the genuine bits only from him you're
giving
> > your
> > > > money
> > > > > > to a criminal and helping to fund his cheating of
fellow
> > > > collectors.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Is it personal?" Thankfully not! I don't like
fraudsters,
> > and
> > > > when
> > > > > > they disrupt my business I have the right to defend my
hard
> > > > work. I'm
> > > > > > happy to speak frankly about him but if he prefers to
creep
> > > > around
> > > > > > colleagues whingeing like a hurt puppy or even crying
on
> > the
> > > > > > telephone (literally!), then that's his perogative.
> > Personally,
> > > > I
> > > > > > pity him, he cuts a very sad figure.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Daniel, please do ask anything else you'd care to about
> > > > Artemission,
> > > > > > I'd be delighted to have an excuse to rant some more!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Rolf
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rolf Kiaer
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Reading your long message, I am astounded to see you
> > comparing
> > > > > > > Artemission to Sadigh and Eftis. I am sure all of us
in
> > this
> > > > group
> > > > > > who
> > > > > > > have purchased items and dealt with Artemission know
they
> > are
> > > > more
> > > > > > > serious than what you mentioned.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I am and have been very impressed by their site and
items
> > and
> > > > anyone
> > > > > > > of us who knows about antiquities knows they are very
> > serious.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Sorry to disagree with your comments, you might have
> > personal
> > > > reason
> > > > > > > to do so, but I think it is not very apropriate.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Daniel
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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