>
> David Welsh writes
>
> > I have not said that US citizens are ABOVE British law. I
> > have said that they are not subject to it, which is quite a
> > different matter,
>
> Well, no that is not what was said. Mr Welsh wrote here just recently:
> > "I would be justified in ignoring that British law because I am
not a British subject",
>
> Ignoring, not obeying. Admittedly that is in the conditional, but he
has indeed on a number of occasions indicated he feels above the laws
which he personally disapproves.
Paul Barford is apparently still confused about jurisdiction. I do not
have to obey British laws unless I am within British jurisdiction,
which ends at the national boundaries of the United Kingdom. Observing
that one is not subject to a law is a very different thing from
maintaining that one is above the law.
> Like here:
> > " I do not feel any obligation to help enforce what I
> > perceive as unwise and unenforceable restrictive
> > antiquities export laws of source states, always providing
> > that importation of artifacts into the USA is licit under US
> > law."
> Note, not "obey", be "subject to", but "help enforce".
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Unidroit-L/message/2712
> Nov 11 2007. In a thread called "Seven points for responsible
collecting".
These are still my views about restrictive antiquities export laws,
however Barford apparently does not understand the meaning of this
statement.
Neither I nor any other US citizen have any obligation to help enforce
the laws of other nations. That, of course, is a different matter from
obeying those laws, as we must when we travel to another nation.
> We have been talking here about respecting the laws of other
countries respecting the passage of goods outside the country, not
obeying them. Where an export licence is required and not obtained,
the person exporting artefacts is committing an offence. By buying
objects from them knowing that, the buyer is buying tainted goods. And
it is immaterial if they think these are "good laws" or "bad laws".
I agree entirely with Paul Barford's above statement, which reflects
my views accurately. I observe these principles in my personal conduct
and in the operation of Classical Coins, even though it would often be
lawful for me to acquire what Paul Barford describes as "tainted goods."
> > I don't know who or what gave Paul (or was it Trevor?) the
> > impression that I am a part time dealer.
>
> It was me.
>
> The idea probably came from: "After initially pursuing interests as
a professional numismatist, he took up an Engineering career and
presently operates an Engineering consultancy." (Your blog. That's
what it says, has said and still says today).
This is true - I operate a part-time engineering consultancy. Anyone
interested can find details at http://www.apptechman.com/. If you need
a product or production facility designed and built, I'm very good at
that and my rates are very reasonable.
However, I am a full time coin dealer. I spend more hours working on
the management of Classical Coins than most people do at their jobs -
almost always sixty or more hours a week.
> Then there is: http://www.apptechman.com/principal.htm which says
nothing at all about being a full-time coin dealer ...
However, there is http://www.apptechman.com/website.htm which does
discuss Classical Coins.
> As for your site being in the "top eight" despite some of your stock
not having moved at all in all the time I've been observing it, you
give away yourself why: http://www.apptechman.com/website.htm.
As noted above, I developed the Classical Coins website myself, and
this effort required ten years and thousands of man-hours of work. It
would have cost a six-figure sum to have that done by a commercial
developer. This hard work, and the amount of informative content in
the Classical Coins website, is the reason why it ranks as one of the
top ten websites in the world in the field of offering ancient coins
to collectors.
As for some of my stock not having moved, there are still a few coins
left (I would guess perhaps a dozen) from the more than five hundred
that were initially listed in December 2003. However, many thousands
of coins have been sold and eventually these last few will also sell -
they just haven't found the right collector yet.
> I don't think my statement contains any value judgement as to how
much of a "part" the dealing takes up, but you do nevertheless do it
"part time".
Almost everyone else, including you, could just as well be said to
work "part time" at your primary employment. In your case, you are
also a writer.
Dave Welsh
Unidroit-L Listowner
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Unidroit-L
dwelsh46@cox.net
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