Talking to rolph is a one way street. He only understand what suits him.
On mondays he licks the boots of the anti-sellers lobby. On Tuesday he courts the
dealers and claims to be one of them, on wednesdays he plays the internet hero for the
benefit of collectors, on the week-ends he is a foul-mouthed low-life (see-his language)
and remove fakes from his site when realise he's been found out. I wonder how many
coats he can wear at the same time.
Scratch the surface and he stinks.
I wonder what he wouldn't do to bring in some miserable business to his site. A born
beggar, that's exactly what someone called him on this very group couple of years ago. I
am sure he would sell his own.... No, sorry, I won't be dragged to his level.
Now, I am called Mr. Karawani, nice name, at least he did not use other names with me
which he learned in his home.
As for his health of mind, it might be too late. Just mention Artemission and he will swirl
round and round as you mentioned like a Derwish.
Please explain to him, if he can't make it in this business, there is no harm into going back
to his farm. Farmers are the back-bone of society and he should be proud of his origins, I
am sure his family will welcome him bak in rural Danmark with open arms.
At least he would have seen during his experience something he never seen before, people
being polite and civilised to each other.
Andy
--- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com, "danigre25" <danigre25@...> wrote:
>
> Rolf
>
> You seem to be a very bitter man indeed. I told you I don't want to
> be involved but you keep coming back for more. Lots of time on your
> hands. How sad. I suspect I know now the reason.
>
> Of course I would not dream of forwarding any of your message to
> Artemission, I am not your messenger and beside you do not have to be
> aggressive with me too for not agreeing with you. Your ranting and
> raging can be of no interest to them either, I doubt they will go
> down to your level.
>
> For the sake of your own health of mind, I suggest you see a
> specialist. You don't seem to be totally with it. Mention twice the
> word Artemission to you and you dance like a Derwish in heat, it
> seems to be hurting you really bad.
>
> For the last time keep me out of it. The competition and competitors
> are your own problem. NOT MINE. I'll just be interested and amused to
> know how many buyers this dancing campaign is going to get you.
>
> Daniel
>
>
> --- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com, "rolf5568"
> <heliosgallery@> wrote:
> >
> > Daniel,
> >
> > So you don't want me to criticise specific pieces of Artemission's
> > stock and you can't name a single verifiable profesisonal entity who
> > will vouch for Artemission's reputation? There's a surprise....
> >
> > As said before, the crook does sell genuine items as well so its no
> > great surprise that either Christies or Bonhams would authenticate
> > something from him, but would either of them recommend him as a
> > reliable dealer? If so, please be specific and tell... its easy to
> > verify. But you won't because you can't.
> >
> > As for this being some sort of way to undermine competition... how
> > come I don't rant about other dealers? And why don't other dealers
> > step forward and say I'm wrong?
> >
> > I sincerely hope you're forwarding these messages to Karawani so he
> > can respond.... but he won't because he can't defend himself.
> >
> > Keep digging the hole Daniel, I'm a busy guy but I've always got time
> > to slate a fraud/crook/creep who is stealing money from collectors.
> >
> > If anyone thinks Daniel is right and I'm wrong please feel free to
> > contribute to the discussion. Let's discuss a few pieces of
> > Artemission's stock so we can be specific - this is all far too wishy-
> > washy which is just the way Karawani likes to keep it.
> >
> > Rolf Kiaer
> > www.heliosgallery.com
> > PS If I was being as personal as you claim, I'd be far ruder ;-))))
> >
> >
> > --- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com, "danigre25" <danigre25@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Rolph
> > >
> > > I have no intention in discussing any dealer or person.
> > > I know enough about antiquities and quite satisfied with what I
> > > acquired from Artemission, authenticity re-confirmed by both
> > Christies
> > > and Bonhams.
> > >
> > > The words you used in your message are strong enough to clearly see
> > I
> > > was right in the first place, it must be a serious personal grudge.
> > Or
> > > worst....
> > >
> > > Using: rat, sordid, fraudster, creep among other words would not
> > > reflect very positively on yourself or your business. Too
> > aggressive IMHO.
> > > You, of course, have the right to try your best shots against
> > > competition, but is this the way you think will earn you any
> > respect?
> > > or more clients? I seriously doubt it.
> > > Good luck with your campaign but I want no part in it.
> > >
> > > Daniel
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com, "rolf5568"
> > > <heliosgallery@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello Daniel,
> > > >
> > > > With all due respect, if you are impressed by Artemission its
> > because
> > > > you don't know enough about antiquities. I do not know any
> > serious
> > > > collector or dealer who would claim that Artemission do not sell
> > > > fakes on a regular basis: please prove me wrong if you can.
> > > >
> > > > Artemission (Tony Karawani) sells forgeries probably every day of
> > his
> > > > sordid little life, his business is built on deception and fraud.
> > He
> > > > relies on mixing his stock with a majority of genuine objects in
> > > > order to make the big profits from unsuspecting buyers who think
> > he
> > > > is honest and therefore buy items which look genuine but are not.
> > I
> > > > believe this paragraph would be both defamatory and libellous if
> > it
> > > > was untrue, so I wonder why I never get a court summons for
> > speaking
> > > > up about this criminal?
> > > >
> > > > He is more sophisticated in his fraud than Eftis and Sadigh and
> > > > that's why so many inexperienced collectors buy from him. He's a
> > > > dangerous little creep who shows no remorse to the point of self-
> > > > delusion.
> > > >
> > > > *If you would like me to highlight some of his items for
> > discussion
> > > > I'd be very very happy to do so*
> > > >
> > > > But why don't you ask around and get some more opinions before
> > you
> > > > flush any more money down the toilet to this sewer rat? If he
> > stuffs
> > > > you with fakes, don't claim you've not been warned; if you're
> > skilled
> > > > enough to buy the genuine bits only from him you're giving your
> > money
> > > > to a criminal and helping to fund his cheating of fellow
> > collectors.
> > > >
> > > > "Is it personal?" Thankfully not! I don't like fraudsters, and
> > when
> > > > they disrupt my business I have the right to defend my hard work.
> > I'm
> > > > happy to speak frankly about him but if he prefers to creep
> > around
> > > > colleagues whingeing like a hurt puppy or even crying on the
> > > > telephone (literally!), then that's his perogative. Personally, I
> > > > pity him, he cuts a very sad figure.
> > > >
> > > > Daniel, please do ask anything else you'd care to about
> > Artemission,
> > > > I'd be delighted to have an excuse to rant some more!
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Rolf
> > > >
> > > > Rolf Kiaer
> > > > www.heliosgallery.com
> > > >
> > > > > Hi
> > > > >
> > > > > Reading your long message, I am astounded to see you comparing
> > > > > Artemission to Sadigh and Eftis. I am sure all of us in this
> > group
> > > > who
> > > > > have purchased items and dealt with Artemission know they are
> > more
> > > > > serious than what you mentioned.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am and have been very impressed by their site and items and
> > anyone
> > > > > of us who knows about antiquities knows they are very serious.
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry to disagree with your comments, you might have personal
> > reason
> > > > > to do so, but I think it is not very apropriate.
> > > > >
> > > > > Daniel
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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