Has the US signed Unidroit? And I should know that, obviously, but I
don't. If we have not signed it, it isnot in my mix.
Steve
--- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com, Guy Rothwell
<ancientrelics@...> wrote:
>
> In the UK, it is the Art and Antiques Squad of the Metropolitan
Police who are interested in the tracking down of smuggled
antiquities and they are also interested in people being defrauded by
buying fakes.
>
> http://www.met.police.uk/artandantiques/
>
> Rule No. 1
>
> If you are in the slightest doubt about the authenticity of a piece
bought from a dealer or on ebay, show it to a museum professional.
Most national museums are willing to comment on items and to receive
pictures of artefacts by email.
>
> Rule No. 2
>
> If museum opinion is that you have been sold a fake, then ask for
your money back.
>
> Rule No. 3
>
> If the dealer refuses, then you are a victim of fraud and if your
loss is significant, report it (and the dealer) to the police. You
might be surprised how interested they are.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Guy
>
> "Sue McGovern, Sands of Time " <sue@...>
wrote:
> Apologies that everyone hardly ever hears from me, I do monitor
the emails and everyone else does such an excellent job of responding
there is seldom anything for me to add. However, I can add some
information to this and suggest a good place to start is the Art Loss
Register (www.artloss.com) – they are based both in London and New
York if you think you might have an issue and they will also assist
with International law should you need advice. Plus, they will
handle the return of antiquities should you believe you have an
illicit object. Many of the antiquity dealers these days will do a
search on important pieces to ensure they have not been reported as
illegally obtained before offering them for sale.
>
> If you really need to get down and dirty, the US has also setup
the Cultural Property Investigations Department as part of Dept of
Home Land Security, Immigration and Customs Enforcement that
specifically deals with antiquities. For the past few years it has
been run by one main agent but he tells me he is now in the process
of training 52 new people!! They believe there is a substantial
amount of unmonitored illegal trafficking into the US and are setting
up to deal with this in a big way soon. The Art Loss Register will
be able to assist you there too. Rule no 1: Check provenance. Rule
#2: search the Art Loss Register. Rule #3: Enjoy.
>
> I cannot however help you with Europe or the UK.
>
> best regards
> Sue
>
> Sue McGovern, President
> Member, International Society of Appraisers
>
> Sands of Time Antiquities
> Phone: 202 342 0518 Fax: 703 997 2410
> email: sue@...
>
> 3003 P St NW, Washington DC 20007
> Hours: Tuesday - Saturday 10am - 6pm
> Open 24 hours:
www.sandsoftimedc.com
>
>
> From: Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rolf5568
> Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 12:50 PM
> To: Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Ancientartifacts] Re: The Unidroit Convention (Rome) 1995
>
>
>
> Hi Trevor,
>
> In short, I think the answer to your question would be that the
> convention does not define an individual nation's laws of export
> (which was Steve's question). I think it sets out to define
> unilaterally acceptable agreements on how to make an application
for
> the return of an "illicit" object and to define legal grounds for
> prosecution/extradition of the owner/handler of an item which is
in
> dispute.
> But before anyone corrects me I would like to state that I've not
> read it entirely, so please be gentle when you put me straight! :-
)
>
> Rolf
>
> --- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com, <ursa_one@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > just a question.....for you and Rolf.
> >
> > > As for contacting various cultural ministries. Did that years
ago.
> > > Most never replied, those that did sent me links to endless
pages
> > > about the import/export of modern goods.
> >
> > >> I don't think anyone knows the definitive answer to your
> questions!
> > >>
> > >> If you want to know about a specific country's cultural
property
> > >> laws I recommend you contact that nation's appropriate
ministry
> or
> > >> government department rather than rely on internet pages
which
> may
> > >> be out of date or inaccurate.
> >
> > So where does the Unidroit Convention of 1995 come into this mix?
> >
> > Trevor
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Guy Rothwell
> Ancient Relics
>
http://www.ancientrelics.co.uk
> Genuine and affordable antiquities, precolumbian art and
historical collectables
> Email: info@..., sales@...
>
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