[Ancientartifacts] Re: Jewelleryworld68

Wed Jun 4, 2008 6:36 am ((PDT))ManorAntiques@aol.com
If you notice, the location of these items is in "PSH SING"  Singapore.  Be
VERY leery of anything from China, as gazillions of  forgeries come from there.

This would certainly be a big surprise for all the people who live in Singapore to learn they were in China.

No parallel can be drawn between the situation in China and Singapore.

As far as I can determine, the export of Chinese antiquities from Singapore is legal.  There has been trade between China and Indonesia for well over 1000 years, and so there are many Chinese antiquities for sale in Singapore that have been in Indonesia since they were new.  As such there are some very good dealers in Chinese items in Singapore.

On the other hand, it is illegal to export from China anything made in China before 1912 without a permit.  Permits are seldom never given out, and I have never seen a genuine Chinese export permit for a genuine Chinese artifact, issued after the date was changed to 1912.  Since the potential penalties for illegally exporting Chinese artifacts from China include the death sentence, I think you can understand how few sellers in China are actually offering openly advertise on ebay genuine items with an intent to illegally export them.

I will point out that the red wax seals often seen on Chinese items and claimed by many to be "authentications", are not.  There are a type of certification that says the item is OK to export, but the most common reason they are applied to items is because the items were examined and found to be fake, and thus not subject to an export restriction.

That being said, I just had a look at Jewelleryworld68's offering.  Many of his items appeared to be genuine, and many did not.  It was in interesting mix an to me it suggested he is nothing more than a re-seller with no knowledge of antiquities and is simply at the mercy of his suppliers.

But looking at his offerings, one particular items just glared at me, as an example of what is happening out there.  He has 15 of these up for sale right now, and another 10 or so in his completed auctions :


All perfect with no restoration and all UNDER $100.00.  This is not the first seller I have seen out there with them, and in fact I have seen several times that many available on the internet recently.

Another type that is bothering me are these :


I was at a show a couple of months ago in the US and one dealer had over 100 of these, all in perfect condition, in a box selling them cheap.  They are now disbursed all over the internet.  Just another example among many.

It is odd that there was never a supply of perfect condition, very rare items, at very inexpensive prices, like this before ebay (at least not in the nearly 20 years I was involved with antiquities prior to ebay coming on line).

Robert Kokotailo

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