Re: [Ancientartifacts] Re: 'Good' Seller with poor COA

I haven't jumped in here, but I would have to agree with what Joel has said, if you have
done any type of acetone or whatever to the piece it could be considered alterations to
the piece. It could have been that it was a hairline crack and Ernie didn't see it,
sometimes those are hard to see even for those who Sell large quantities all the time. A
hairline crack is totally different than a fixed or repaired piece.

This is very simular to Coin Dealers who sell Uncleaned coins, when a person gets them, if
they don't like them, they need to keep them in the same shape as when they received them
to send them back to the Seller. If there has been any cleaning, even put into water,
that is considered altering them and most if not all Uncleaned Dealers will not take back
those and even if the Buyer sends them back, they will not receive any credit or money
back from them, no matter how mad or disgruntled they become.


Stephen Churley wrote:
> Well let's see what Rolf thinks when he examines the pot early next
> week. If I am wrong about the extent of the restorations I will
> apologise to Ernie. If the restorations are more extensive than Ernie's
> COA suggests, I hope he will then refund me.
> Stephen
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: jmwarren2001 <>
> To:
> Sent: Friday, June 6, 2008 4:49:34 PM
> Subject: [Ancientartifacts] Re: 'Good' Seller with poor COA
> In defense of Ernie, who I don't know, you guys seem to think this
> acetone test done by a collector (not a recognized expert in
> restoration) settles the whole matter. First, that is NOT proof of
> restoration. You would need more proof than that. Have you tried
> blacklight? And, you have indeed now altered the piece. Suppose you
> removed original pigment and the piece is 100% accurately described?
> Once again, your test isn't enough to determine if Ernie's description
> was not accurate. I suggest you take good images of the piece and post
> them. Let people see the piece, and see if they can see restoration.
> Unless it is done by quite a talented person, experienced collectors
> should be able to see something.
> Joel


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