Regardless of what some individuals here tell you, ebay and trocadero
are NOT the same. Try calling and talking with most of the people
selling on ebay, like the ones claiming to be selling Pre Columbian
artifacts straight out of South America. They change user ID about
once a month. Most, and I say Most, not all trocadero dealers have a
way to contact them and at least speak with them and get an idea how
you feel about them. Go ahead- try that on ebay. As with anything,
there are always exceptions, but I guarantee you, the chances of
getting burnt on ebay are WAY WAY WAY higher. I sell on both, and I
know and deal with quite a few trocadro dealers, and I will tell you,
I know where I would rather put my trust. ANYBODY that tells you ebay
and trocadero are the same has an agenda of their own. Just try your
own little experiment, try contacting some ebay sellers, and then try
contacting some trocadero dealers, and see how far you get with the
former. There is a reason that the blacklist here contains so many
ebay sellers. Where there is smoke, there is fire - So don't get
burnt.
Brett
--- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com, "Steve"
<maximusopinionus@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Steve & Group.
> As a Newbie I do try and follow the advice given.. My eBay
purchases have fallen
> dramatically and I seem to be spending more time following links
posted on this group
> both to view fakes and 'guaranteed' items.I also have the latest
Fakers List (many thanks
> Ramon) which has also helped steer me clear of potential trouble.
Due to past advice I
> tend to look on Trocadero as being a lot safer than eBay but with
this latest discussion I
> now feel as 'unsafe' as I do on eBay. Last night I purchased a coin
from a Seller called
> Antiquarica who has 4000 feedback and gives a long term money back
guarantee as to
> authenticity.. Now in this latest message Steve, you mention Sunny
Tampa .. where
> antiquarica hails from.. and this Seller is NOT on the Blacklist..
Now I am standing here
> not knowing if I am on my 'head or my elbow'. HELP !!
> Regards Steve S..--- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com, "Steve
Minor"
> <relicdigar@> wrote:
> >
> > I decided to do a quick, highly scientific survey of Trocadero.I
> > searched for phallic, Roman, and Viking and somewhat randomly
chose a
> > page and object and these are the jewels I found:
> >
http://www.trocadero.com/02016/item502016store.html#itemfaganarms/item
> > s/745125/item745125store.html#item
> >
> >
http://www.trocadero.com/glitzqueen/items/502016/item502016store.html#
> > item
> >
> > http://www.trocadero.com/archeology/items/754472/item754472.html
> >
> > The Fagan arms Viking iron items sure do look like the same iron
I
> > get from Bulgaria and Germany and I certainly don't call it
Viking.
> > I also see Sunny Tampa on Trocadero. You all can bet on 95% of
the
> > merch on here being real; I will not. Go search "fibula"
or "phallic"
> > and show me the 95% real ones on there.
> >
> > The only protection against buying fakes is to know the material
or
> > have a first person relationship with a dealer that guarantees
the
> > merchandise. If you depend on a third person entity, like the
> > Trocadero management or eBay's Safe Harbor, you are in a very
weak
> > position.
> >
> > And to continously say that 90 - 95% of the antiquities on eBay
are
> > fake is just ridiculous. At this point in time, at least 99% look
> > fake to me.
> >
> > I will be doing the photobucket thing again in a couple of weeks.
> > Hopefully about 125 items if I have the energy. I have a few
hundred
> > pieces of insignia to get posted and then I will turn my
attention to
> > the artifacts again.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com, "Brett" <mavebc@> wrote:
> > >
> > > First of all D_ _ _ - I ain't your "son" - Second - I sell on
both
> > > and I know the difference.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Minor"
> > > <relicdigar@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Son,
> > > > I bet I have much more of a clue than you.
> > > > I have been a member of Trocadero a couple of times and on
ebay
> > > since
> > > > the first year. Misrepresentations are common all over
Trocadero
> > as
> > > > they are anywhere eles but go ahead and jump on something
just
> > > > because it posted there. good luck.
> > > > SGM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com, "Brett" <mavebc@>
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > To compare Trocadero and ebay means you have no clue. Where
> > > > probably
> > > > > upwards of 80% of ebay items can be fake or reproduction,
95%
> > of
> > > > > trocadero is a safe bet.
> > > > > Brett
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com, "Steve Minor"
> > > > > <relicdigar@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Trocadero is no safer than any other site. There are a
lot of
> > > > > > Trocadero dealers on here that will vouch for Trocadero
but
> > > there
> > > > > is
> > > > > > as much misreresentation on there in the categories I am
> > > familiar
> > > > > > with as on eBay or antwhere else.
> > > > > > I have reported obvious fakes to the site and never got
an
> > > answer
> > > > > or
> > > > > > result.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com, "niuboy08"
> > <niuboy08@>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm newer to collecting, and I recently discovered
> > > Trocadero.
> > > > I
> > > > > > > thaught that it would be a more reliable site online in
> > > finding
> > > > > > > authentic pieces than that of ebay. And, I noticed
one
> > item
> > > > > which
> > > > > > has
> > > > > > > been classified as fake from collector-antiquities.com
and
> > I
> > > > was
> > > > > > > wondering if Trocadero polices itself, or if its more
or
> > less
> > > > > like
> > > > > > ebay?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Here is the link to the item:
http://tinyurl.com/2fgdlc
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and to the collector-antiquites page with the same item
(I
> > > > think
> > > > > > even
> > > > > > > same picture):
http://www.collector-
antiquities.com/353/
> > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/28l9at
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Albert
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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