Ward G.
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Minor <relicdigar@yahoo.com>
To: Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 4:17 am
Subject: [Ancientartifacts] Re: Trocadero? sunnytampa
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-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Minor <relicdigar@yahoo.com>
To: Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tue, 25 Mar 2008 4:17 am
Subject: [Ancientartifacts] Re: Trocadero? sunnytampa
he is on this one. I never understood why because most of his stuff
seems to be a bit better than most of the b lacklist stuff.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Ancientartifacts/message/41117
--- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com , "Steve"
<maximusopinionus@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Steve & Group.
> As a Newbie I do try and follow the advice given.. My eBay
purchases have fallen
> dramatically and I seem to be spending more time following links
posted on this group
> both to view fakes and 'guaranteed' items.I also have the latest
Fakers List (many thanks
> Ramon) which has also helped steer me clear of potential trouble.
Due to past advice I
> tend to look on Trocadero as being a lot safer than eBay but with
this latest discussion I
> now feel as 'unsafe' as I do on eBay. Last night I purchased a coin
from a Seller called
> Antiquarica who has 4000 feedback and gives a long term money back
guarantee as to
> authenticity.. Now in this latest message Steve, you mention Sunny
Tampa .. where
> antiquarica hails from.. and this Seller is NOT on the Blacklist..
Now I am standing here
> not knowing if I am on my 'head or my elbow'. HELP !!
> Regards Steve S..--- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com , "Steve
Minor"
> <relicdigar@> wrote:
> >
> > I decided to do a quick, highly scientific survey of Trocadero.I
> > searched for phallic, Roman, and Viking and somewhat randomly
chose a
> > page and object and these are the jewels I found:
> >
http://www.trocadero.com/02016/item502016store.html#itemfaganarms/item
> > s/745125/item745125store.html#item
> >
> >
http://www.trocadero.com/glitzqueen/items/502016/item502016store.html#
> > item
> >
> > http://www.trocadero.com/archeology/items/754472/item754472.html
> >
> > The Fagan arms Viking iron items sure do look like the same iron
I
> > get from Bulgaria and Germany and I certainly don't call it
Viking.
> > I also see Sunny Tampa on Trocadero. You all can bet on 95% of
the
> > merch on here being real; I will not. Go search "fibula"
or "phallic"
> > and show me the 95% real ones on there.
> >
> > The only protection against buying fakes is to know the material
or
> > have a first person relationship with a dealer that guarantees
the
> > merchandise. If you depend on a third person entity, like the
> > Trocadero management or eBay's Safe Harbor, you are in a very
weak
> > position.
> >
> > And to continously say that 90 - 95% of the antiquities on eBay
are
> > fake is just ridiculous. At this point in time, at least 99% look
> > fake to me.
> >
> > I will be doing the photobucket thing again in a couple of weeks.
> > Hopefully about 125 items if I have the energy. I have a few
hundred
> > pieces of insignia to get posted and then I will turn my
attention to
> > the artifacts again.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com , "Brett" <mavebc@> wrote:
> > >
> > > First of all D_ _ _ - I ain't your "son" - Second - I sell on
both
> > > and I know the difference.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com , "Steve Minor"
> > > <relicdigar@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Son,
> > > > I bet I have much more of a clue than you.
> > > > I have been a member of Trocadero a couple of times and on
ebay
> > > since
> > > > the first year. Misrepresentations are common all over
Trocadero
> > as
> > > > they are anywhere eles but go ahead and jump on something
just
> > > > because it posted there. good luck.
> > > > SGM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com , "Brett" <mavebc@>
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > To compare Trocadero and ebay means you have no clue. Where
> > > > probably
> > > > > upwards of 80% of ebay items can be fake or reproduction,
95%
> > of
> > > > > trocadero is a safe bet.
> > > > > Brett
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com , "Steve Minor"
> > > > > <relicdigar@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Trocadero is no safer than any other site. There are a
lot of
> > > > > > Trocadero dealers on here that will vouch for Trocadero
but
> > > there
> > > > > is
> > > > > > as much misreresentation on there in the categories I am
> > > familiar
> > > > > > with as on eBay or antwhere else.
> > > > > > I have reported obvious fakes to the site and never got
an
> > > answer
> > > > > or
> > > > > > result.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com , "niuboy08"
> > <niuboy08@>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm newer to collecting, and I recently discovered
> > > Trocadero.
> > > > I
> > > > > > > thaught that it would be a more reliable site online in
> > > finding
> > > > > > > authentic pieces than that of ebay. And, I noticed
one
> > item
> > > > > which
> > > > > > has
> > > > > > > been classified as fake from collector-antiquities.com
and
> > I
> > > > was
> > > > > > > wondering if Trocadero polices itself, or if its more
or
> > less
> > > > > like
> > > > > > ebay?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Here is the link to the item:
http://tinyurl.com/2fgdlc
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and to the collector-antiquites page with the same item
(I
> > > > think
> > > > > > even
> > > > > > > same picture): http://www.collector-
antiquities.com/353/
> > > > > > > http://tinyurl.com/28l9at
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Albert
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
seems to be a bit better than most of the b lacklist stuff.
http://groups.
--- In Ancientartifacts@
<maximusopinionus@
>
> Hi Steve & Group.
> As a Newbie I do try and follow the advice given.. My eBay
purchases have fallen
> dramatically and I seem to be spending more time following links
posted on this group
> both to view fakes and 'guaranteed' items.I also have the latest
Fakers List (many thanks
> Ramon) which has also helped steer me clear of potential trouble.
Due to past advice I
> tend to look on Trocadero as being a lot safer than eBay but with
this latest discussion I
> now feel as 'unsafe' as I do on eBay. Last night I purchased a coin
from a Seller called
> Antiquarica who has 4000 feedback and gives a long term money back
guarantee as to
> authenticity.
Tampa .. where
> antiquarica hails from.. and this Seller is NOT on the Blacklist..
Now I am standing here
> not knowing if I am on my 'head or my elbow'. HELP !!
> Regards Steve S..--- In Ancientartifacts@
Minor"
> <relicdigar@
> >
> > I decided to do a quick, highly scientific survey of Trocadero.I
> > searched for phallic, Roman, and Viking and somewhat randomly
chose a
> > page and object and these are the jewels I found:
> >
http://www.trocader
> > s/745125/item745125
> >
> >
http://www.trocader
> > item
> >
> > http://www.trocader
> >
> > The Fagan arms Viking iron items sure do look like the same iron
I
> > get from Bulgaria and Germany and I certainly don't call it
Viking.
> > I also see Sunny Tampa on Trocadero. You all can bet on 95% of
the
> > merch on here being real; I will not. Go search "fibula"
or "phallic"
> > and show me the 95% real ones on there.
> >
> > The only protection against buying fakes is to know the material
or
> > have a first person relationship with a dealer that guarantees
the
> > merchandise. If you depend on a third person entity, like the
> > Trocadero management or eBay's Safe Harbor, you are in a very
weak
> > position.
> >
> > And to continously say that 90 - 95% of the antiquities on eBay
are
> > fake is just ridiculous. At this point in time, at least 99% look
> > fake to me.
> >
> > I will be doing the photobucket thing again in a couple of weeks.
> > Hopefully about 125 items if I have the energy. I have a few
hundred
> > pieces of insignia to get posted and then I will turn my
attention to
> > the artifacts again.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Ancientartifacts@
> > >
> > > First of all D_ _ _ - I ain't your "son" - Second - I sell on
both
> > > and I know the difference.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Ancientartifacts@
> > > <relicdigar@
> > > >
> > > > Son,
> > > > I bet I have much more of a clue than you.
> > > > I have been a member of Trocadero a couple of times and on
ebay
> > > since
> > > > the first year. Misrepresentations are common all over
Trocadero
> > as
> > > > they are anywhere eles but go ahead and jump on something
just
> > > > because it posted there. good luck.
> > > > SGM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In Ancientartifacts@
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > To compare Trocadero and ebay means you have no clue. Where
> > > > probably
> > > > > upwards of 80% of ebay items can be fake or reproduction,
95%
> > of
> > > > > trocadero is a safe bet.
> > > > > Brett
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Ancientartifacts@
> > > > > <relicdigar@
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Trocadero is no safer than any other site. There are a
lot of
> > > > > > Trocadero dealers on here that will vouch for Trocadero
but
> > > there
> > > > > is
> > > > > > as much misreresentation on there in the categories I am
> > > familiar
> > > > > > with as on eBay or antwhere else.
> > > > > > I have reported obvious fakes to the site and never got
an
> > > answer
> > > > > or
> > > > > > result.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Ancientartifacts@
> > <niuboy08@>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm newer to collecting, and I recently discovered
> > > Trocadero.
> > > > I
> > > > > > > thaught that it would be a more reliable site online in
> > > finding
> > > > > > > authentic pieces than that of ebay. And, I noticed
one
> > item
> > > > > which
> > > > > > has
> > > > > > > been classified as fake from collector-antiquiti
and
> > I
> > > > was
> > > > > > > wondering if Trocadero polices itself, or if its more
or
> > less
> > > > > like
> > > > > > ebay?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Here is the link to the item:
http://tinyurl.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > and to the collector-antiquite
(I
> > > > think
> > > > > > even
> > > > > > > same picture): http://www.collecto
antiquities.
> > > > > > > http://tinyurl.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Albert
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
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