Re: [Ancientartifacts] Re: De Montebello responds

Dave Welsh retorts:
> However, the concluding paragraph of Dr.
> Opoku's remarks <
Umm, but you seem to be losing sight of the fact that it was not Opoku's
text you posted here for discussion, but only De Montabello's patronising
REPLY (See topic name) to which my comments were addressed. And the context
of those remarks was in the light of the way the NY "universalist" tried to
dismiss the African's opinions as without import.

The paragraph to which you refer actually ends with the words "respect for
the rights of others, including their cultural rights which are now
disregarded by many European and American museum directors". De Montabello
shows neither respect nor recognition of those rights, and that was the
context of my own remarks.

I note you have not responded in any way to the other comments I also made
about DM's idea that if its not behind the glass of his museum, nobody would
know about a past culture - nor how "universal" that collection actually is
in terms of the ancient cultures of the part of the continent that museum is
situated. This too is part of the context of the discussion of
neo-colonialist ideologies (here US ones) dressed as "universalism".

>> I do not see what the Roman Catholic Church has >> to do with ANY of
>> this, or Italy. <<
> That's because you are not thinking in terms of the
> actual legal processes that must be followed to
> compel possessors of objects to relinquish them. <
Well, you've not gone any further to enlightening any of us what on earth
you are on about. Especially your implied relationship between the
government of Italy and the Holy See. Or the Roman Empire for that matter.
Also in the light of what Kwame Opoku was ACTUALLY saying in the text DM
"replied" to. Far from "attempting to bring a bit of realism and common
sense into the discussion", it seems to me that you are merely trying to
deflect it by raising ridiculous speculations as if this is what the
repatriation lobby is actually arguing. More of those "cheap points" Tom
Flynn wrote about in the context of this discussion.

Paul Barford


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