I have just as much right to my "two cents" as you put it as you do to your opinions, and most people on the group know I am a dealer and have been one for over 40 years it is no secret, they also know I rarely point out the fact when commenting because I don't believe there is any need to. Why do you feel it is necessary to point it out in a snide remark about my "two cents" as If I should be ashamed of it?
This is what we mean by "flaming" and it does not matter who started it or who is the most "adult" by "common ground" I was obviously making reference to the discussion itself not the issues as can be seen below.
"It does not even belong here, as this is not a forum for discussion of collectors "ethics "what ever the merits of either side in the discussion."
In fact we probably have many views in common regarding the issues under discussion, but you will never know that, because it seems from your posts as an evil dealer, I can't possibly have any valid opinions can I ? Just "two cents" worth of self serving opinion. By now we all know your views ad infinitum you have made them quite clear already. Please don't bother responding to this. If you do you will only be proving how necessary it is to stop this discussion before it degenerates even further.
Since you insist,
Sincerely,
David A.J. Liebert
For the Time machine co.
On May 29, 2008, at 4:14 PM, Paul Barford wrote:
__._,_.___Dealer David Liebert (of timemachineco.com ) adds his two cents.Can I ask both you and Kim why you regard it as "natural" that there should be any "flaming" at all when adults - even if from different backgrounds - discuss the serious issues which do, whether you want to admit it or not, face portable artefact collecting today?These problems are not going to go away, no matter how much aggressive posturing some of you adopt and how abusive you are towards those who point them out, or try to sweep them under the carpet.
David Liebert states that there is really "no common ground". Is that so? It seems to me that its dealers who are saying this. The people making money who'd prefer their clients not to have crazy notions like asking where those cuneiform tablets, cylinder seals and wearable Byzantine crosses actually come from. My understanding is however that the collectors do see a common ground between what they are engaged in the hobby for, not "money", but like archaeology an understanding of past lives and experiences.To what does Nancy (or is it Earl?) Keefer think I should surrender? What is it we should surrender? Is it "good practice" I have been criticising, or bad practice?Paul Barford
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