They were selling with official license from cairo museum and also from their finds for decades, this must be many thousands of pieces. Blanchard certificate remains a good provenance but does not provide any guarantee for its authenticity imho in view of the comments of dr. raven.
Cheers,
Niek
www.shabticollections.com
To: Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups.com
From: tim@pennyblack.org.uk
Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 12:02:57 +0000
Subject: Re: [Ancientartifacts] Re: Collection of Ushabtis
Hi NiekI was just curious, I have seen a few items from Blanchard's and all have seemed okay. I have a shabti on a wooden block with a Blanchard's label on the base and a silver necklace with three scarabs and a Blanchard's COA/receipt and I'm happy enough with those.Tim----- Original Message -----From: Niek De HaanSent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 6:06 AMSubject: RE: [Ancientartifacts] Re: Collection of UshabtisHi,
No, no specific examples, just from various sources, including Dr. Raven of Leiden museum, i understood that it widely known that they did sell fakes, whether this even were shabtis i am not sure although this seems likely. Nevertheless i guess we would immediately spot their fake shabtis if any.
Cheers,
Niek
www.shabticollections.com
To: Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups. com
From: tim@pennyblack.org.uk
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 23:24:29 +0000
Subject: Re: [Ancientartifacts] Re: Collection of Ushabtis
Do you know of specific examples of fakes sold by Blanchard's, Niek?The earliest known fake shabti was bequeathed by Archbishop Laud to the Bodleian Library at Oxford University in 1635 and now resides in the Ashmolean Museum:Tim----- Original Message -----From: Niek De HaanSent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 8:59 PMSubject: RE: [Ancientartifacts] Re: Collection of UshabtisHi Matthias,
Tourist fakes have been in Egypt since the 1920's. Even the famous Blanchards has been selling fakes in the 1920 even though he was an authorised dealer for the cairo museum.
I stick with my previous view. i recommend that you show the shabtis to a local museum for confirmation and then a possible refund for the likely fake pieces.
Cheers,
Niek
www.shabticollections.com
To: Ancientartifacts@yahoogroups. com
From: ankauf@thegreatcollection.de
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 2008 08:34:20 +0000
Subject: [Ancientartifacts] Re: Collection of Ushabtis
Hi,
first of all, thanks for the answers. Finally, I come up with some
more information on the figures and hope to hear your opinion again.
All Figures have originally been acquired in the 1970ies. I can be
absolutely sure about this. The person I have the pieces from has been
collecting artefacts for some decades. So the pieces won't be bought
directly at a tourist market in Egypt.
1. Figurine
don't know where bought.
Described as dancer and "Concubine du mort"
2. Figurine
don't know where bought.
Described as "Concubine du mort"
Dated 745-332 BC
3. Figurine
bought from auctionhouse Ruef in munich in the 70ies.
Described as "Uachib - Re"
4. Figurine
bought from auctionhouse Ruef in munich in the 70ies.
Dated ca. 700 v.Chr.
5. Figurine
don't know where bought and have no further description.
regards
Matthias
--- In Ancentartifacts@yahoogrups. , "Dik van Bommel"com
<dikencis@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Matthias,
>
> I have big doubts too, don't know enough about the female figures so
that they are wrong is only a feeling on basis of shape and faience.
>
> The first LP ushabti Wa-ibra-sa-Neith looks fine, but I wonder were
I have seen this before.
>
> The TIP is fake, wrong faience, shape, glyph's, etc.
>
> The last LP is impressive but has all the characteristics of the new
fakes with the burned structure. These are old Sadigh fakes reworked.
The glyph's between the hand are not very common and I can't give
thumbs up.
>
> Sorry for the bad news.
>
> Can you tell us were you bought these artefact's?
>
> Carpe diem,
> Dik
>
>
> ----- Oorspronkelijk bericht -----
> Van: Niek De Haan
> Aan: ancienartifacts@yahoogrous. com
> Ontvangen: maandag 3 maart 2008 22:16
> Onderwerp: RE: [Ancientartifacts] Collection of Ushabtis
>
>
>
>
> Hi,
>
> I have problems with the authenticity of more than one i am afraid,
the first to "female figurines" do not look like anything i have seen
published before and appear tourist fakes to me.
>
> Third one looks genuine, Late Period (Beard, back pillar, incised
glyphs et cetera), for Wa-ib-ra (mery sa?)
>
> Fourth, fake too, supposedly Tip period but shape is wrong, faience
too and the glyphs.
>
> Fifth piece i am not sure of, Late Period style, glyphs okay, shape
okay, faience okay for as far as cs be seen on the photos, benefit of
the doubt. Dik what is your view?
>
> Cheers,
> Niek
>
> www.shabticollections.com
>
>
> To: Ancientartifactsyahoogroups. cm
> From: ankauf@...
> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2008 06:18:31 +0000
> Subject: [Ancientartifacts] Collection of Ushabtis
>
>
>
>
> Hi group,
>
> I would like to present 3 Ushabtis and 2 female figurines to you and
> hope to receive some help in assigning an Egyptian period to them.
>
> Find them here:
> http://www.thegreatcollection. de/ushabtis/
>
> Can someone help and point out characteristic features of the
> pieces that help to place them in a timeline and maybe tell something
> about their use?
> The painted Ushabti for example. Might it be a priest or a guardian?
>
> Has anyone an idea about the female figurines?
> They could be goddesses or concubines. I can't find a hint to what
> they were used for. The fact that they are not depicted very> erotically does ot support the concubine thesis. What about the long
> arms? Have "normal people" been portrayed like that when long armed
> statues were a fashion in Egypt?
>
> Also, I am not sure about authenticity of one of the figurines. Maybe
> someone of you has got the same feeling :-)
>
> I appreciate any help I will get and hope to stir up some discussion :-)
> Matthias
>
>
>
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